Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/20/2001 08:02 AM House STA

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HB 72 - ASST. ADJUTANT GEN. FOR MISSILE DEFENSE                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1584                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL announced  that the next item of  business would be                                                               
House  Bill NO.  72, "An  Act relating  to an  assistant adjutant                                                               
general  for  national  missile  defense  in  the  Department  of                                                               
Military and Veterans' Affairs."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CAROL  CARROLL,   Director,  Administrative   Services  Division,                                                               
Department of Military and Veterans'  Affairs (MVA), came forward                                                               
to testify.  She said HB 72 is  a simple bill that would give MVA                                                               
the authority to  have one more assistant  adjutant general, this                                                               
one  being for  national  missile defense.    If authorized,  the                                                               
position would  be paid totally  by the federal government.   The                                                               
concept is that  the new officer would be a  member of the Alaska                                                               
National Guard in the traditional  sense and a full-time employee                                                               
of the National Missile Defense Joint Program Office.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL EXPLAINED that HB  72 is before the committee because                                                               
only  state  legislatures  have the  authority  to  create  these                                                               
positions.   The federal government, Congress,  has the authority                                                               
to  create all  other general  officer  positions.   There are  a                                                               
limited  number  of  general  officer  positions  in  the  United                                                               
States, and  creating this state  position is about the  only way                                                               
to  get a  general officer  in  Alaska for  the National  Missile                                                               
Defense System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CARROLL   testified   that    MG   Phil   Oates,   Adjutant                                                               
General/Commissioner,  believes this  would  be  a very  valuable                                                               
position.    It  would  be the  state's  military  representative                                                               
during  the  development  and  the  deployment  of  the  National                                                               
Missile Defense System.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1705                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked Ms. Carroll  to define the parameters of this                                                               
position's authority,  considering that  the position  is created                                                               
by  [state]  statute  but  employed   and  paid  by  the  federal                                                               
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS, CARROLL  replied that this  would be  a state position.   "We                                                               
would have to  have a memorandum of understanding  with the Joint                                                               
Program Office on  what the duties of the position  would be, but                                                               
we would have joint interview  and approval of the position," she                                                               
said.   The  governor would  have to  concur and  the legislature                                                               
would have  to confirm the  position [because it  always confirms                                                               
the rank  of any of the  general officers in the  Alaska National                                                               
Guard].                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL surmised,  "So this  would  be the  first step  in                                                               
securing the  position, and then  the authority would  be defined                                                               
afterwards, even though this sets out why we're doing it."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL said that was correct.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  asked  to  whom  this  individual  answers.                                                               
"Will he  answer to General Oates,  will he be of  the same rank,                                                               
what's the ranking system of this, and who does he answer to?"                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL  replied that this  position would answer  to General                                                               
Oates in  [the new officer's] traditional  Alaska guardsman role.                                                               
He will  be a brigadier general.   He will be  the site commander                                                               
in  Alaska for  the development  and deployment  of the  National                                                               
Missile Defense  System.   In that  role, he  will answer  to the                                                               
Joint  Program  Office, and  that's  the  federal military  part.                                                               
It's a dual role.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE asked what his  duties would be, "taking into                                                               
consideration  the fact  that  most  of this  is  going  to be  a                                                               
federal project?"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARROLL replied  that he  would  be the  site commander  for                                                               
National Missile Defense development and deployment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE asked, [and]  "From the Alaska National Guard                                                               
side?"                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL  replied, "He would  then be a  traditional guardsman                                                               
and that  is the  same role as  any traditional  guardsman plays:                                                               
... you  are required to go  to annual training two  weeks out of                                                               
the  year, you  are required  to perform  a weekend  duty ...  at                                                               
least  one month  a year;  and in  that role,  [the new  officer]                                                               
would be under the command of General Oates.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  asked if  in  that  regard, he  would  also                                                               
command a small force, as in other National Guard areas.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL  was uncertain of  that and told  Representative Fate                                                               
she would have to ask General Oates to get back to him on that.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  said  he  would like  to  know  the  answer                                                               
"simply because there's a cost attached to it."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS noted  that  those  participating in  the                                                               
discussion  kept saying  "he," and  asked if  [the new  officer's                                                               
gender] was a foregone conclusion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL acknowledged, "I made that mistake, didn't I?"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   STEVENS  recognized   the   importance  of   the                                                               
position,  alluding to  discussions  about  potential changes  in                                                               
national defense [involving  Alaska].  "But should  that not come                                                               
to pass,  should Alaska not  be the major  player in that  ... is                                                               
this  premature?   Will  we  still need  this  position if  North                                                               
Dakota is selected ...?"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL  explained, "We  are setting up  the structure  to be                                                               
able to act if these things do  happen.  So if they don't happen,                                                               
the structure will be there, but it will not be used."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS inquired,  "So if it does  not happen, you                                                               
will not fill this position?"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL replied, "That's correct."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  summarized: "So  you're putting  things in                                                               
place  in case  this  happens.   If it  doesn't  happen, then  we                                                               
aren't going to fill it at all ....  Is that correct?"                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL confirmed that it was correct.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON asked if anything  currently was being done                                                               
to bring this [National Defense Missile] system to Alaska.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL said  there are many efforts being made  right now to                                                               
try to  bring this system  to Alaska.   We have  interaction with                                                               
the Joint  Program Office, but  only on the National  Guard side.                                                               
In addition, there  is a state position that was  approved by the                                                               
legislature  last  year  for National  Missile  Defense  that  is                                                               
investigating all of the civilian  spin-offs that can benefit the                                                               
citizens of  the state such  as technology, fiber optics,  how we                                                               
can use those things on our civilian  side.  So there is a lot of                                                               
activity that is occurring."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  queried, "This  is all at  no cost  to the                                                               
state now?  Do you foresee down  the line if this does happen, is                                                               
this  going to  be all  federal dollars  ... or  are we  going to                                                               
eventually be picking up part of the tab?                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL emphasized, "We are not  going to pick up the tab for                                                               
the position.   That's why ... the bill that  you have before you                                                               
says it  will be federally  funded.  There  is no intent  for the                                                               
state to ever fund this position."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON said  that was  not what  she meant.   "If                                                               
because  this position  is here  ... there  will be  offshoots of                                                               
this.  Then  is it going to be  costly to the state or  is it all                                                               
federal dollars still?"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL restated the question  to clarify before she answered                                                               
it:  Will  the National Missile Defense System have  a state cost                                                               
whether matching in our facilities or anything like that?  No."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON confirmed  that was what she  had wanted to                                                               
know.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2116                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE moved  to report HB 72 out  of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
He added, however,  that he would still like  an answer regarding                                                               
whether there would be a command under this position.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARROLL promised to get that information for him.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL said he would appreciate that.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2143                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL noted that there was no objection to reporting HB
72 out of committee.  Therefore, HB 72 was reported from the                                                                    
House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                         

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